feel safe that the government has spent 40 years running this? are your savings safer because of these two congressmen. >> do we need government to protect workers? >> absolutely. next question. [ laughter ] >> but one result is this. government's good intentions went wrong. that so our show tonight. tonight. john: politicians claimed they make life better to pass laws. they have good intentions but we should not judge by intention. politicians good intentions go wrong. work regulation. companies are not greedy they don't care about their workers but seems reasonable government has to protect them. almost everybody agrees. >> they should be protected. >> definitely. so many things could have been. corporations could be corrupt. the government should step been. john: that makes sense. so much beyond the workers' control. safety rules. what does a factory owner care? that is why we need occupational safety and health administration. it sets safety rules. they will show how the workplace deaths dropped since the beginning. thank goodness for government. except look at this graph.

john: you look forward to going to school? >> yes. twenty-seven regular government schools get results because they are a government monopoly of almost always do a lousy job. up against the education blob that his job of the hunt teachers' union comment janitor union, bureaucrats they're resist change that is why -- while i was excited charters schools. schools could experiment the parents would see how much better it could be and kids would benefit from the innovation. it is not happening. sometimes. but the center for education reform says the charter movement has gone wrong. what happened is an example. >> my group have put together an application to start a charter school and we have been repeatedly stonewalled 57 because of your own daughter's experience you've got together with people and said we will start a charter. >> the first application was 100 pages could. denied. >> they said there was not a need we had typographical errors in the application. john: wouldn't mcdonald's like to say that to burger king? >> yes. john: you try again. >> we fixed them and we got more p

the field. >> john, there's a terrific bias in favor of government and i give you this example. when the debate about, whether to eliminate the mortgage interest deduction was being bandied about this week in washington, "the washington post" had this line, that would cost the government, the elimination of the mortgage deduction, 100 billion dollars a year. so, it's all about the government, what it costs the government. what about what it costs the taxpayers, the people who make give to these bozos to waste. >> i thought we were the government. >> exactly. >> i'm trying to figure out where cal is coming from. >> yeah. but the president, you know, was out in philadelphia on friday, and he seems to be sort of, continuing the campaign almost as if he didn't win the election and the media are playing-- >> again, look, there's no question the media are trying to push the republicans toward a deal although there's a significant backlash against it. look, the president is campaigning, he's campaigning, just like he's kept going, but it worked for him and before november 6th why should he

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